Colossians 2:9 – Pleroma, Theotes and Somatikos

For in Him all the fullness [Greek, pleroma, plenitude*] of Deity [Greek, Theotes; Strong’s #2320**] dwells in bodily form and in him you are made full, who is the head of all principality and power. — Colossians 2:9,10, New American Standard Bible translation.
*See: Thayer and Smith. “Greek Lexicon entry for Pleroma“. “The New Testament Greek Lexicon”.
**See: Thayer and Smith. “Greek Lexicon entry for Theotes“. “The New Testament Greek Lexicon”.

All Hebrew and Greek words have been transliterated throughout.

The Bauer, Arndt and Gingrich Lexicon [BAGD], on page 359, defines the Greek word theotes as: “deity, divinity, used as abstract noun for theos…the fullness of a deity Col.2:9”. [abstract noun, a quality or attribute].

This form of THEOS, that is, *THEOTES*, only appears this one time in the Scriptures, thus we have a lack of scriptural comparison for its usage. We have, however, the Hebrew background of words that translated into Greek as THEOS, that is, forms of EL (Strong’s #s 410, 430, 433. We have presented elsewhere a study of the Hebriac usage of these words in the Hebrew scriptures, showing that when they are used of others than Yahweh (or idols of men), they take on a more general meaning of might, power, strength, etc.* Without assuming and adding to Colossians 2:9 the idea that Jesus is being spoken of here as Yahweh, the default is to reason that Paul used theotes to describe what God has given to Jesus in the way of power and might, not to assume any idea that Jesus is Yahweh.
*See: The Hebraic Usage of the Titles for “God”

The Greek form of Soma (body) that appears in Colossians 2:9, is *Somatikos* (Strong’s #4985; adverb form of “Soma”, bodily), which exact form likewise does not appear any where else in the Scriptures, although the adjective form appears in Luke 3:22 and 1 Timothy 4:8. Usually, forms of the Greek word “Soma” refer to some physical form. However, Paul speaks of Jesus’ spiritual, heavenly, body in the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:44), when he says that Jesus, the last Adam, “became a life-giving spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:45) Likewise, in his words of Colossians 2:9 in its context, as well as by comparison of scripture with scripture, we conclude that Paul is speaking about Jesus’ spiritual body; we see no scriptural reason to think that Paul was speaking of Jesus’ body of flesh, which body Jesus had given to sacrifice to God for our sins.  — Ephesians 5:2; Hebrews 10:10.
See: Jesus Died a Human Being – Raised a Spirit Being

The plenitude of godship — ruling might — does dwell permanently in the mighty spiritual body of Jesus. It is not just an authority that is given to him, but this is speaking of power in his very being.  After he became the life-giving spirit, he now possesses all the power needed to carry out the works of his Father, thus “it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness [plenitude] to dwell in Him.” (Colossians 1:19, NAS) Having this plenitude of power given to him from the Source of all power, now he “is the head of all principality and power.” (Colossians 2:10) This might — godhead, godship — is given to Jesus by his God. — Psalm 45:7; Matthew 28:18; Hebrews 1:2,6,9; Philippians 2:9; Colossians 2:10; Psalm 2:7,8; 110:1,2; Isaiah 9:6,7; Luke 1:32; Jeremiah 23:5; Daniel 7:13,14.

For more concerning Colossians 2:9, see:

The Fullness of Deity

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13 responses to “Colossians 2:9 – Pleroma, Theotes and Somatikos

  1. @reslight You’re negating other passages that reference Jesus glorified human state. Jesus is a new creation in his resurrection both flesh, and spiritual in the sense that the life giving spirit of his Father is in him to uphold all things by the power of his word from his Father.

    In his glorified state as a man(1Ti 2:5) he has the power to vanish(Luk 24:31) and appear(Luk 24:36) like the angels but he isn’t a spirit like them but a man of flesh and bones. – Luk 24:39 “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

    Jesus said of his God, “God is spirit.. “Paul said, of the glorified Jesus the man Christ Jesus and not a spirit. – 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    Shalom!

  2. Jesus was born into this world, not of the creation that has been subjected to vanity, but as a new creation, a creation separate from the taint of Adamic condemnation. Unlike Adam, Jesus, through the days of his flesh (Hebrews 5:7), never sinned; he never fell short of the glory of his God, as we all do who are condemned in Adam.

    Due to the disobedience of the first human pair, God’s human creation became corrupted, no longer straight, and God, giving his promise of a seed who would remedy the matter (Genesis 3:15), decreed man subjected to futility, under a bondage of corruption. (Ecclesiastes 1:2,13-15; Romans 5:12-19; 8:19-22; Philippians 2:15; Romans 1:24-31) Only a new creation not under the present sun of vanity could save man, since there is no new creation under the present sun of vanity! (Ecclesiastes 1:9,10) Jesus was such a new creation; his body was prepared by God, as was the original creation of Adam. (Genesis 2:7; Hebrews 10:5) He was not born into the corrupted seed of the serpent (Genesis 3:15), but was begotten in the womb of Mary by God’s holy spirit, and thus was a new human creation, not of the old creation subjected to futility. — Matthew 1:20.

    Paul by his words of 1 Timothy 2:5,6, declared that it was the man Christ Jesus who gave himself (to his God in sacrifice — Ephesians 1:3; 5:2) as a ransom for all.
    See:
    The Seed of David
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=224
    Jesus Died a Human Being – Raised a Spirit Being
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=1
    1 Peter 3:18 – Raised in the Spirit
    http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=430
    Hebrews 1:1-3 – The Unipersonal God Spoke Through His Son
    http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=772
    The Man Jesus – Still a Man? (1 Timothy 2:5,6)
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=87
    Luke 24:39 – Jesus’ Appearances in the Locked Room
    http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=723
    Hebrews 2:9 – Is Jesus Still a Little Lower than the Angels?
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=195
    Divine Ecomomy in the Ransom
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=192

    Christian love,
    Ronald

  3. Chemarin Bernard

    JESUS WAS IN THE FLESH : IMMANUEL: GOD WITH US

    BEFORE HE WAS IN THE FLESH HE WAS MICHAEL : WHO IS LIKE GOD;

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    [2] The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
    [15] John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
    [16] And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

    [1] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    [2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
    [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
    [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
    [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    JESUS WHO IS IMMANUEL:GOD WITH US ONLY CAN BE MEDIATOR
    BETWEEN GOD AND MEN

    GOD WITH US(MEN)

    IN HIMSELF HE IS GOD AND MAN

    Christ veiled His divinity with the garb of humanity, laying aside His celestial glory and majesty, so that sinners would be able to exist in His presence without being destroyed. Though He was still God, He did not appear as God (Phil. 2:6-8).

    NOTE

    Jesus was and is God as for his nature BUT He is the Son of God
    as for His identity because He was begotten by the Father in eternity
    past (Micah 5:2/ Proverbs 8)

    The Father is God in personality and indentity, He is the source of
    all beings and all laws

    There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
    [5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
    [6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    but

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
    [39] And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.(john 6)

    Shalom

  4. Chemarin Bernard Submitted on 2012/05/12 at 10:41 am

    JESUS WAS IN THE FLESH : IMMANUEL: GOD WITH US

    Jesus, the one sent by the only true God, was, while in the days of flesh, actually flesh, a little lower than the angels.

    Regarding the titular name, Immanuel, see:
    http://godandson.reslight.net/?cat=801

    Chemarin Bernard Submitted on 2012/05/12 at 10:41 am

    BEFORE HE WAS IN THE FLESH HE WAS MICHAEL : WHO IS LIKE GOD;

    Yes, before Jesus became flesh, I agree that he was Michael the Archangel

    See:
    http://godandson.reslight.net/?cat=469

    Chemarin Bernard Submitted on 2012/05/12 at 10:41 am

    Regarding John 1:1,2, see:

    John 1:1 – James White Regarding “Was”
    John 1:1 – In the Beginning
    John 1:1 – Is Jesus “God” Whom He Was With?
    John 1:1 – The Logos of God
    John 1:1 – What Beginning?
    John 1:1 and Trinitarian Assumptions
    John 1:1-3 – The Logos was Theos

    Regarding Romans 8:3, if Jesus had to be his God in order to redeem man, then sin has been justified, rather than condemned, in the flesh.

    See:
    Price of Redemption – God or Man?
    How God’s Son Condemned Sin the Flesh

    Regarding 1 Timothy 2:5, it was the man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all (1 Timothy 2:5,6); it was not the Most High who died for our sin; the scriptures nowhere say that the man Christ Jesus, in order to be the mediator between God and sinful man, had to be both God and Man.
    See:
    1 Timothy 2:5,6 – Did Jesus Have to Be Both God and Man?

    Regarding Philippians 2:6-8, see:

    Humility of Mind

    Regarding Micah 5:2, see:

    From Everlasting or Ancient Days?

    Regarding Proverbs 8, see:

    Proverbs 8:22,23 – Proof that Jesus Existed For All Eternity Past?

    The “one God” of 1 Corinthians 8:6 is indeed the source of all might, power, strength, etc.

    See:
    1 Corinthians 8:6 – One God, One Lord; Deuteronomy 6:4

    Regarding Ephesiasn 4:4-6, see:

    One Lord

    God in John 3:16,17 speaks of only one individual; he does not say that “God” is more than one person, nor does it say that the Son of “God” is a person of “God”.

    CLICK HERE for links related to John 3:16.
    CLICK HERE for links regarding John 3:17.

    In John 6:38,39, Jesus expresses that he is not the only true God (John 17:3).

    CLICK HERE for links related to John 6:38.

    In Christ’s name,
    Ronald

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  11. nontrinitarian

    “Immanuel” – most translations have it “God IS with us”, not “God with us”. Many Hebrew names had God’s name (Jah or Yah) or title (el) in their makeup, and said things about God – but this did not mean that the people who bore these names were God. A name which means “God is with us” doesn’t mean that the person who bears the name is God.

    Also, the original OT prophecy says that the virgin who was to bear the child would call his name “immanuel”. Mary never called Jesus “immanuel” (in fact, he is never addressed as “immanuel” by anybody in the New Testament), nor was that prophecy uttered about the coming Messiah, but about events which were to happen centuries before his birth in Israel and regarding its people and their political situation.

    Finally, to the extent that God was with us when Jesus was present, Acts 10:38 says : “…God anointed Jesus… GOD WAS WITH HIM”. Jesus said “…not…myself, but he Father that dwelleth in me” (Jn 14:10) and the fact that “He that sent me is WITH me” (Jn 8:29) . God definitely WAS “with us” in a more emphatic and manifest way when Jesus was near, but that is because “God was WITH” Jesus, not because God WAS Jesus.

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