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Colossians 2:9 – Pleroma, Theotes and Somatikos

For in Him all the fullness [Greek, pleroma, plenitude*] of Deity [Greek, Theotes; Strong’s #2320**] dwells in bodily form and in him you are made full, who is the head of all principality and power. — Colossians 2:9,10, New American Standard Bible translation.
*See: Thayer and Smith. “Greek Lexicon entry for Pleroma“. “The New Testament Greek Lexicon”.
**See: Thayer and Smith. “Greek Lexicon entry for Theotes“. “The New Testament Greek Lexicon”.

All Hebrew and Greek words have been transliterated throughout.

The Bauer, Arndt and Gingrich Lexicon [BAGD], on page 359, defines the Greek word theotes as: “deity, divinity, used as abstract noun for theos…the fullness of a deity Col.2:9”. [abstract noun, a quality or attribute].

This form of THEOS, that is, *THEOTES*, only appears this one time in the Scriptures, thus we have a lack of scriptural comparison for its usage. We have, however, the Hebrew background of words that translated into Greek as THEOS, that is, forms of EL (Strong’s #s 410, 430, 433. We have presented elsewhere a study of the Hebriac usage of these words in the Hebrew scriptures, showing that when they are used of others than Yahweh (or idols of men), they take on a more general meaning of might, power, strength, etc.* Without assuming and adding to Colossians 2:9 the idea that Jesus is being spoken of here as Yahweh, the default is to reason that Paul used theotes to describe what God has given to Jesus in the way of power and might, not to assume any idea that Jesus is Yahweh.
*See: The Hebraic Usage of the Titles for “God”

The Greek form of Soma (body) that appears in Colossians 2:9, is *Somatikos* (Strong’s #4985; adverb form of “Soma”, bodily), which exact form likewise does not appear any where else in the Scriptures, although the adjective form appears in Luke 3:22 and 1 Timothy 4:8. Usually, forms of the Greek word “Soma” refer to some physical form. However, Paul speaks of Jesus’ spiritual, heavenly, body in the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:44), when he says that Jesus, the last Adam, “became a life-giving spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:45) Likewise, in his words of Colossians 2:9 in its context, as well as by comparison of scripture with scripture, we conclude that Paul is speaking about Jesus’ spiritual body; we see no scriptural reason to think that Paul was speaking of Jesus’ body of flesh, which body Jesus had given to sacrifice to God for our sins.  — Ephesians 5:2; Hebrews 10:10.
See: Jesus Died a Human Being – Raised a Spirit Being

The plenitude of godship — ruling might — does dwell permanently in the mighty spiritual body of Jesus. It is not just an authority that is given to him, but this is speaking of power in his very being.  After he became the life-giving spirit, he now possesses all the power needed to carry out the works of his Father, thus “it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness [plenitude] to dwell in Him.” (Colossians 1:19, NAS) Having this plenitude of power given to him from the Source of all power, now he “is the head of all principality and power.” (Colossians 2:10) This might — godhead, godship — is given to Jesus by his God. — Psalm 45:7; Matthew 28:18; Hebrews 1:2,6,9; Philippians 2:9; Colossians 2:10; Psalm 2:7,8; 110:1,2; Isaiah 9:6,7; Luke 1:32; Jeremiah 23:5; Daniel 7:13,14.

For more concerning Colossians 2:9, see:

The Fullness of Deity


The Son of God Was Either God or a Bad Man? – Is Jesus God the Most High?

It is being claimed that the divinity of Christ is the central Christian doctrine, and that this doctrine is “like a skeleton key that opens all the others.” By divinity, the context makes it clear that the author means that Jesus is the Most High Yahweh. We do not deny the divinity of Jesus in that mightiness that the only Most High has given to Jesus. We do not, however, believe that the divinity, the mightiness, that the only Most High has given to Jesus means that Jesus is the Most High who has given to Jesus all authority and power. Indeed, rather than being a key that opens all other doctrines, this doctrine that Jesus is the Most High denigrates the role Jesus had in becoming a man. If Jesus was the Most High while in the days of his flesh, then rather than condemning sin in the flesh, Jesus justified sin in the flesh, since such an idea would have meant that for Adam to have obeyed the Most High, Adam would have needed to have been the Most High in the flesh. — Romans 8:3

See the studies:
How God’s Son Condemned Sin in the Flesh

Hebraic Usage of the Titles for “God”

Additionally, those who claim that Jesus is the Most High usually add to this that Jesus is still in the flesh, that Jesus will always be bound to his body of flesh for eternity. Such denies the very basis of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus as given in the Bible. It would mean that either Jesus fail to complete his sacrifice, or that he took back what he had offered for sin. Either way, such would annul the basis of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus.

See the studies:

Jesus Died a Human Being – Raised a Spirit Being
The Basis of Atonement

Jesus never claimed to the “God”, that is, Jesus never claimed to be the One whom he designated as the only true God.  Rather, Jesus claimed to have been sent by the only true God, the only true Might of the universe. (John 17:3) Jesus never once claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, thus the idea that “Christ was either God or a Bad Man” is irrelevant. Indeed, if Jesus in the flesh was his God, then the whole basis of the redemption by means of his sacrifice becomes irrelevant. No, Jesus was not his God, but this does not at all make Jesus a “bad man”. Such an argument is simply sophistry.

It was a man — not God — who sinned and brought condemnation upon mankind. All that was needed to rectify the condition of sin was another man — not God — who would obey God. If that man had to be God in order obey God, then such would not condemn sin in the flesh. It would not proven that a righteous man could obey God perfectly. It would rather have proven that a righteous man would have to be God Himself in order to obey God.

The Bible nowhere says that for a man to be the offering for sin that such man would have to be his God. That idea comes, not from the Bible, but out of the imagination of men whose minds cannot fully submit the revealing of ths spirit as given through the Bible. By going beyond what is written, these men have submitted themselves to an idol of their own making (evidently aided by Satan) and wish make it a requirement of all that they must submit to their imaginations for salvation, thus displacing the salvation that is revealed by God’s holy spirit in the Bible.


Jesus is not Yahweh (Jehovah)

The Bible reveals that what is needed for salvation is not God, but a man, one a little lower than the angels as was Adam. God Himself provided such a man through His son (not Himself), for he sent his son into the world of mankind in the flesh; God gave Jesus that flesh, that body (Hebrews 10:5), so that he — having become a man, nothing more, nothing less — was not under the condemnation through Adam. Unlike Adam, however, Jesus never once disobeyed the Most High; he proved his faithfulness and thus showed his Father to have been just, while providing the way for his Father to justify mankind. — John 6:51; Romans 3:26; 5:12-19; 8:3,19-21; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22; Hebrews 10:10.

All the abilities that Jesus had, he received from the only true God, all to the glory of the only true Most High. None of Jesus’ miracles or abilities that God gave to Jesus give us any reason to use the spirit of human imagination so as to assume and add to the scriptures that the Son of God is “God” of  whom he claimed to be the son. — Luke 1:32; 10:22; 3:35; Matthew 28:19; John 13:3; Acts 2:22,36; 3:13; 1 Corinthians 15:27;  Ephesians 1:20-22; Philippians 2:9-11; Hebrews 1:2.

John 1:51 does not describe Jesus as “God”, but as the son of the man (David), and “God” is depicted in that scripture as one person, totally and separately distinct from the son of David.

As far as repelling the attacks of those who claim that Jesus was a bad man, a liar, a lunatic, etc, such as agnostics, deists, Muslims and other non-Christian religions, one does not need to add to the scriptures that Jesus was the Most High in order to counter the claims of such. Indeed, adding such to scriptures diminishes the role of Jesus as having been obedient to the Most High, of the salvation provided through the offering of the body of Christ to the Most High.

Jesus is not the God Most High; no scripture ever presents Jesus as being Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, although many read such a thought into many scriptures.

Mark 14:61-63 – Jesus’ Claim to be the Messiah

This is Part 3 in response to:

Blog of the Good Shepherd’s Question and Answer: The Trinity

The assertion is made that Jesus claimed to be God. If Jesus had so claimed, then it would mean, in effect, that Jesus was claiming to be his God who sent Jesus.

This claim is alleged to have support from Jesus’ words recorded at Mark 14:61-63:

Mark 14:61 – But he was silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?”
Mark 14:62 – And Jesus said, “I am; and you will see the Son of man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”
Mark 14:63 – And the high priest tore his garments, and said, “Why do we still need witnesses? — Revised Standard Version.

The question was asked of Jesus if he was the Messiah, the Anointed One of Yahweh, the Son of the Yahweh; the high priest did not ask Jesus if the he was the anointer of Messiah.  Jesus responded that he  was indeed the anointed one of Yahweh, and that the time was to come when they would see the Son of the Man (the son of the man David) seated at the right hand of Yahweh (Dunamis – Power – has evidently been substituted here for the holy name).  Jesus answered this by referring to Psalm 110:1, where we read:

Yahweh says to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, Until I make your enemies your footstool for your feet.”

It should be very obvious that Jesus was claiming to be, not Yahweh, but the one who was to sit at the right hand of Yahweh.

Nor by saying “I am” was Jesus proclaiming himself to be Yahweh. In answer the question, he was saying “I am” the messiah, the one anointed by Yahweh. In the prophetic statement of Isaiah 61:1, Jesus is depicted as saying “Yahweh has anointed me,” that is, “Yahweh is the One who has made me Christ, Messiah.”  This was all that Jesus was affirming when he said “I am”. — See also Psalm 45:7; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38; Hebrews 1:9.

What we do not find at all anything that even implies that Jesus was claiming to the only true God whom he claimed had sent him. — John 17:1,3.

The high priest, believing that Jesus as a sinner making himself out to be the promised one was thus so angry at that he tore is garments, and proclaimed Jesus guilty of blasphemy. Not one word is said in any of the verses about Jesus’ allegedly claiming to his God. Such a thought has to be assumed, added to, and read into what Jesus said.

Nor is there anything special about Jesus’ saying “I am” in answering the affirmative to question that there is for me or you or anyone else who might do the same.  If someone asks Joe, who is a plumber, if he is a plumber, and he answers by saying “I am,” Joe is not saying that he is Yahweh.

For more information on Jesus’ “I am” statements, see:,304.0.html

Divinity of Jesus

One has claimed: “In any case the divinity of Jesus is written all over the New Testament. What concerns me is why you are so anxious to deny it.”

Of course, we are not anxious to deny the divinity of Jesus.  It is the assumption of most trinitarians that all who deny the trinity, or any who do not believe that jesus is Yahweh, is also denying the divinity of Jesus. We do deny that Jesus is his God, Yahweh.

The divine nature of Jesus as revealed in the scriptures is the same divine nature to which his followers are called upon to become partakers of. — 2 Peter 1:4.

Many, however, would like to  add to the scriptures the equation that “divine nature” means “Supreme Being.”

Nevertheless, Jesus indeed could now be called a divine being — a mighty being, but his being such does not mean that he is the Supreme Being. The only true Supreme Being (John 17:3) has exalted Jesus as a divine being, a spiritual being, even much higher than the angels, who are also divine (mighty) beings. God has given to Jesus the plentitude (pleroma) of mightiness (theotes) in his spiritual body that he might be able to fulfill the great power and authority that the only true Supreme Being has given to Jesus. — Psalm 8:5; Matthew 28:19; Ephesians 1:3,17,20,21; Colossians 2:9,10; Hebrews 1:4; 2:7.

The Son of Yahweh is Not Yahweh

In response to:

Yes, we still do not believe that Jesus is Yahweh, the only true God. Nothing on the page gives any reason to think that Jesus is Yahweh, of whom he is the Son.

I am presenting the scriptures below that are used on the page. If the scripture has a link or links, all you need to is to click on the link(s) related to that scripture.  At present, not all scriptures have any link attached. Many scriptures provide links with Google searches which may or may not, at present, have a link that discusses the scripture from standpoint presented; if pertinent discussion should be added at a later date, then the search should include that discussion once it has been added.

1. Scriptures being used to claim that Jesus is Omniscient, evidently with the idea that such an attribute would mean that Jesus is his God, Yahweh.

Some general links:

Matthew 12:25

Matthew 27:18

Luke 6:8
See the Comments for Matthew 12:25

John 2:24-25

John 21:17

Revelation 2:23

The son of Yahweh, of course, does not know all that his God and Father knows.  (Mark 13:32; Revelation 1:1) Many trinitarians claim that only the “human being” does not know what God the Father knows, but that Jesus the God Being is supposed to allegedly not be the same sentient being as the human being, but rather an omniscient being. In effect, this actually makes Jesus into two separate and distinct persons, one who has only the sentiency of a human being who does not have the omniscient sentiency, and another who has the sentiency of the omniscient being.

2. Scriptures Presented to Allegedly Prove that Jesus is Omnipotent, evidently to supposedly prove this means that Jesus is the Most High.

Ephesians 3:20

Philippians 3:20,21

Colossians 2:10

Hebrews 1:3

Revelation 1:8

The truth is as revealed by God in the Bible: Jesus is son of the only Most High, Yahweh. Jesus is never spoken of as the “Most High”; he is not the only Most High Yahweh of whom he is the son. — Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16.

3. We are next presented with scriptures that are intended to show that Jesus Christ is unchangingimmutable

Hebrews 1:8-12

Hebrews 13:8

4. It is next claimed that Jesus, the Son of the Most High, is present everywhere – omnipresent.

Matthew 18:20

Romans 8:10

1 Corinthians 10:4

Revelation 2:1

Revelation 3:20

5. The next set of scriptures are supposed to prove that Jesus has eternal existence, evidently meaning that Jesus has always existed and will always exist.

Isaiah 9:6

John 1:1-3

John 8:58

Revelation 1:8

6. Scriptures are presented to allegedly prove the claim that the Son of Yahweh is the Creator, and thus Yahweh whom he is the Son.

Is Jesus the Creator?

Genesis 1:26

John 1:2-3

John 1:10
Evidently thought to support the idea that Jesus is Creator because the scripture, as it reads in many translations, says that the world into which the Logos came was made “by” the Logos. The word “by” is rendered from the Greek dia, which is being used here in the sense of an agent being used by another. The word is better rendered as “through” rather than by, as many translation do:  “He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world didn’t recognize him.” (World English) See also:

1 Corinthians 8:6

Colossians 1:16,17

Hebrews 1:2,3

Hebrews 2:10

Hebrews 3:3-4

7. The next set of scriptures gives scriptures that show that Jesus is the judge of all mankind, evidently with the idea that this would mean that the Son of Yahweh is Yahweh.

Jesus is made judge of all by the only Most High, Yahweh. The fact that Jesus is made judge actually shows that Jesus is not the Most High.

Matthew 7:22-23

Matthew 25:31-33, 41

John 12:48

Acts 10:42

Acts 17:31

Romans 2:16

Romans 14:10-12

2 Corinthians 5:10

2 Timothy 4:1, 8

Hebrews 10:30

We are next presented some scriptures regarding God’s holy spirit

Matthew 3:11

John 15:26

Romans 8:9

Galatians 4:6

Revelation 5:6

We are next presented with scriptures that are supposed to allegedly prove that Jesus is worshiped as the God of Jesus.

Jesus was never worshiped as the Most High; this is discussed in the following studies:

Jesus Received Worship

The Worship Due Jesus

Luke 4:8

Revelation 22:8-9

Acts 10:25-26

Matthew 2:1-2

Luke  24:51-52

Matthew 2:10-11

Matthew 8:2

Matthew 9:18

Matthew 14:33

Matthew 15:25

Matthew 28:9

Mark 5:6

Luke 24:51-52

John 9:35-38

Hebrews 1:6

Revelation 5:8-14

Revelation 15:3-4

We are given a scripture with with the statement that Jesus is the object of saving faith

John 14:1-6

We are next given a series of sets of scriptures that are supposed to show the Son of Yahweh’s “Essential Deity”

For our discussions on the word “deity” and usage in the Bible,  see:

1. Scriptures where the Son of God is supposed to show the Son of Yahweh’s “Essential Deity”

Matthew 11:27

Matthew 14:26, 33-33

Matthew 16:16

Matthew 26:63-65

2. The following are scriptures that are alleged to prove that Jesus’ being called “Lord” is proof that he is his God.

See the studies:
“Lord” in the New Testament

Luke 2:11

Luke 3:4-6

1 Corinthians 12:3

Philippians 2:11

Of course, in reality, the fact that Yahweh sent and anointed Jesus (Isaiah 61:1), and made Jesus “Lord” (Acts 2:36), does not mean that Jesus is Yahweh.

We are next given a series of scriptures from the Old Testament and New Testament that supposedly “point to Jesus Christ as being God.”

From the Old Testament:

Isaiah 7:14

Isaiah 9:6

Jeremiah 23:5-6

Micah 5:2

Malachi 3:1-2

Psalm 45:1, 6-7

Psalm 110:1-3

Scriptures From the New Testament

Matthew 1:23

John 1:1-3, 14

John 1:18

John 20:27-28

Romans 9:5

Philippians 2:5-8

Colossians 1:15-16

Colossians 2:8-10

1 Timothy 1:16-17

1 Timothy 2:3-4

1 Timothy 3:16

1 Timothy 6:14-16

Titus 1:3

Titus 2:10

Titus 2:13

Hebrews 1:1-3

Hebrews 1:8

Jude 25

We are next presented with scriptures where it is alleged that the Son of Yahweh claimed his own divinity.

Please note that we do not deny the divinity of Christ, but we do deny that the Son of Yahweh ever claimed to be his God.

Revelation 21:6-7

John 8:57-59

John 5:17-26

John 10:28-39

Mark 2:5-11

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