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Revelation 22:13 – Response

One has responded to our discussion of Revelation 22:13, with the claim that we “engage in the most bizarre mental contortions.”

Our earlier examinations of Revelation 22:13 include the following:

http://godandson.relslight.net/alphaomega.html
https://sonofyah.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/ao-03/
https://sonofyah.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/rev-2213-obj/

We are not told exactly how it is that we allegedly engaged in bizarre mental contortions. We have endeavored to lay out as simply as possible the logical conclusion as related to the context, the rest of the book of Revelation, as well as to show who is saying what in harmony with the entire Bible. The thought given seems to indicate that Jesus remains the speaker from Revelation 22:13 to verse 16, where it is definitely Jesus who says, “I Jesus.” However, we should note that Revelation 22:14 definitely gives sure indication of not being spoken by the same person who was speaking in Revelation 22:13, since it refers back to “his commandments.” Thus, the most logical conclusion is that whoever is speaking in verse 14 is not the one who identifies himself as Alpha and Omega in verse 13. There is nothing bizarre or contorted in that.

Additionally, Alpha and Omega is identified in Chapter 21:5,6 as the one sitting on the throne, who is not the Lamb (Jesus), since Jesus is the one who takes the scroll from the One sitting on the throne. (Revelation 5:7) We have no reason to think that Alpha and Omega in Revelation 22:13 is not the same person who speaks in Revelation 21:5,6.

Before, it is definitely the angel, not Jesus or Yahweh, speaking in verses 9 through 11. Verses 12 and 13 are most certainly not the angel, although directly there is nothing to show any break from the angel to someone else. It is Yahweh —  the God and Father of Jesus, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the only true God who sent Jesus — of whom it prophesied in the Old Testament: “Yahweh; for he comes, For he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world with righteousness, The peoples with his truth.” (Psalm 96:13) “Let them sing before Yahweh, For he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world with righteousness, And the peoples with equity” (Psalm 98:9) Paul lets us know that Yahweh comes to judge by means of the one that Yahweh ordained. (Acts 17:31) In the Old Testament, Yahweh judged Israel by means of many judges whom he sent; likewise, He judges the world by means of His Son, whom he has ordained, appointed, as judge. So while there is indeed a very close connection between Jesus and what Jesus’ God performs through Jesus, this does not mean that Jesus is his God.

Regardless, even if it were Jesus who used the term Alpha and Omega in Revelation 22:13, it still would not mean that Jesus is his God. It would only mean that in some way the term Alpha and Omega is applicable to both Jesus and to his God. One would have to assume the idea that Jesus is Yahweh; and then assume and add to that assumption that the Jesus is a person of Yahweh, in order to have the trinitarian view added to the scripture.

Jesus, of course, is never presented in the Bible as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus was sent by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. — Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 (Deuteronomy 8:3; Luke 4:4); Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Exodus 20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8); Matthew 22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:7,20-23); Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30; 6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12.

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Revelation 22:13 – I am Alpha and Omega

Before reading this, please see our comments on Revelation 1:8 and Revelation 21:6.

Now we come to Revelation 22:13. Many feel sure that this is Jesus speaking, since the one speaking tells of his “coming”, and in Revelation 22:20, Jesus says: “I come quickly.” And John exclaims: “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.” This overlooks the fact that the scriptures speak of Jehovah [Yahweh] as coming, and also of Jesus’ coming, and that the two are closely associated. This does not mean that Jesus is Jehovah. Jehovah, the God and Father of Jesus, comes to judge the world, not only with and by means of Jesus, but also the saints. — Malachi 3:1-6; Psalm 96:13; 98:9; Daniel 7:18,22; Isaiah 40:10,11; Micah 1:3; Zechariah 14:5; Acts 17:31; 2 Peter 3:7,8; 1 Corinthians 6:2; Psalm 90:4; Jude 1:14,15; Revelation 1:1; 20:4,11-13; 22:6.

Below we quote Revelation 22:6-21 with our comments in brackets [].

Revelation 22:6 [John writes:] He [The angel mentioned in Revelation 21:9] said to me [John], “These words are faithful and true. The Lord [Jehovah], the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angels to show to his servants the things which must happen soon.” [This agrees with Revelation 1:1-5, that the revelation is from God through Jesus, and delivered by an angel.]
Revelation 22:7 [Note the abrupt change; the angel suddenly quotes someone as coming:] “Behold, I come quickly. Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.” [Many claim that the one coming is Jesus; however, this could also be speaking of Jehovah. More than likely, since the angel was just referring to Jehovah, the God of the spirits of the prophets, the angel is quoting Jehovah.]
Revelation 22:8 [John is no longer quoting the angel or anyone else, but speaks of himself:] Now I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. When I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who had shown me these things.
Revelation 22:9 He [the angel] said to me [John], “See you don’t do it! I am a fellow bondservant with you and with your brothers, the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”
Revelation 22:10 He [The angel] said to me [John], “Don’t seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.
Revelation 22:11 He who acts unjustly, let him act unjustly still. He who is filthy, let him be filthy still. He who is righteous, let him do righteousness still. He who is holy, let him be holy still.”
Revelation 22:12 [Very abruptly the angel begins to quote someone else again:] “Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. [The God of Jesus judges the world through Jesus, and each man will get his praise from the God of Jesus, who is identified in the following scriptures; Psalm 96:13; Psalm 98:9; Isaiah 40:10,11; Acts 17:31; Romans 2:16; 1 Corinthians 4:5; 2 Timothy 4:1]
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” [This identifies the speaker, not as Jesus, but as the one who sits on the throne, he who is, was and is to come — see studies related to Alpha and Omega: http://jesus-rlbible.com/?page_id=5259
Revelation 22:14 [Evidently the angel is then quoted as saying:] “Blessed are those [the heathen who are judged in during millennial rule of Jesus and the church] who do his [God’s] commandments [revealed in the books that are opened to them during that judgment day — Revelation 20:12], that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city.
Revelation 22:15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.” [those in the judgment day who prove themselves to be the goats of that age — Matthew 25:31-46]
Revelation 22:16 [Now the angel quotes Jesus:] “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things to you for the assemblies. I am the root [Jesus becomes the root of David in the regeneration of David] and the offspring of David; the Bright and Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:17 [This is probably the angel speaking:] “The Spirit and the bride say, ‘Come!’ He who hears, let him say, ‘Come!’ He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.”
Revelation 22:18 [John then abruptly changes so as to quote Jesus:] “I testify to every man who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book.
Revelation 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God [He who is, was and is to come, he who comes to judge the world through Jesus] take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22:20 [John writes] He [Jesus] who testifies these things says, “Yes, I come quickly.” [John responds:] Amen! Come, Lord Jesus. Revelation 22:21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen. — World English Bible translation, with quotation marks slightly adjusted from that used in the World English.

Regarding the judgment day, see the study:
Mankind’s Course to the Day of Judgment

One has sent us some objections to the above. CLICK HERE to see our response.

Revelation 1:8 – The God of Jesus Speaks

This is the first of three-part series on Alpha and Omega in the book of Revelation.

It is our belief that Alpha and Omega all through the book Revelation is in reference to the God and Father of Jesus, not to Jesus, who is the son of His God. We find the phrase — Alpha and Omega — in Revelation 1:8; 21:6; 22:13 — all three of which, if we examine the scriptures closely, can be seen to refer to Yahweh, the God and Father of Jesus. In this post, we will examine the first of the scriptures, Revelation 1:8.

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” — Revelation 1:8
New American Standard Version

The scripture itself, the context, as well as other scriptures, show that it is the God of Jesus who is being quoted as speaking in Revelation 1:8, not Jesus himself. The Revelation is from the God and Father of Jesus, who, in turn gives the message to his angel, who in turn gives the message to John. Revelaton 1:1 uses the word “God” — not to designate three persons, but rather it designates one person, the one that Jesus refers to as “my God.” (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34; John 20:17; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 3:12) All through the New Testament, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is presented as one person, and always as distinct from His son. — Acts 3:13-26; Hebrews 1:1,2.

Nevertheless, in Revelation 1:1, there are four persons involved in the transmission of the Revelation, and, throughout the Revelation, sometimes it is Jesus who is being quoted, and sometimes it is John who is speaking, and sometimes it is the angel who is quoted, and sometimes it is the God and Father of Jesus who is quoted.

In Revelation 1:8, the Alexandrian manuscripts, the Complutensian edition, and the Latin Vulgate, the Syriac, and Arabic versions, all read, “the Lord God”; and the Ethiopic version only has “God”. Most modern translations have “the Lord God”, which expression was used as a substitute for the expression “Yahweh [Jehovah] God”, that appears many times in the Old Testament. This can be seen by comparing Acts 3:22; 7:37 with the Hebrew of Deuteronomy 18:15. In all instances where the phrase occurs in the NT, it is in reference to Yahweh, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. — Luke 1:32; 1 Peter 3:10-15; Revelation 11:17,19; 15:3; 16:7; 18:8; 21:11; 22:6.
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Likewise, with the phrases “the Lord our God” and “the Lord your God”: These phrases are always used in reference to Yahweh, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. — Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Deuteronomy 6:13; 10:20); Matthew 22:37 (Deuteronomy 6:5); Mark 12:29 (Deuteronomy 6:4); etc.

Jesus is differentiated from “God, who is and who was and who is to come” in Revelaton 1:4,5, which is basically the same phrase used in Revelation 1:8. Verses 5 and 6 refer to Jesus and the church members who are made a kingdom and also priests to “his God and Father” (World English Bible translation), that is, the God and Father of Jesus, which gives further differentiation between Jesus and his God and Father. Verse 7 refers to Jesus as coming with clouds. Verse 8 turns to quoting Yahweh, the One referred to in verse 4. In verses 9-10 John begins to write of himself. In verse 11, John begins to quote Jesus. In verses 12 through 16, John himself is writing of what he saw. In verse 17, John reports that he falls before Jesus as dead, and tells of what Jesus does and says.

Thus, Jesus is not being called Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:8, nor is he being called “Almighty”.

Only the God and Father of Jesus is called the “Most High” in the scriptures: Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16.

More detail on this can be found at:
http://godandson.reslight.net/rev-1-8.html
http://reslight.net/forum/index.php?topic=139.0

Updated: February 1, 2010.

Continued in Revelation 21:6 and Revelation 22:13.